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May 01, 2007

Homosexual Marriage

I'm going to a heterosexual wedding in Rhode Island this weekend. I haven't been to a wedding in years. They always seem a bit contrived to me - like, you know they're totally gonna say yes.

The truth is most of my straight friends live out of state, or they've already been married and divorced, or they haven't found their soulmate yet, or they eloped (which is fantastic!), or they're whores.

And I've never been invited to a gay wedding. Rude. Even my parents were invited to one - back in 1988! As I said before, those Rochestarians are so progressive.

Anyway, I'm ambivalent about the whole marriage thing. If it were legal for me, at this point, I'm not sure I would sign up. But I wouldn't rule it out either. The rights a couple is granted in a marriage are definitely desirable; I can see why the gays are actively pursuing it. It's that whole ownership seal that's placed on a relationship that is disconcerting - like a GLAD Press'N Seal. I sleep better with the door ajar. Or maybe I fear the jinx factor.

I'm Oprah; she's Steadman - only without the money. :(

I haven't done a catty online poll in awhile, so let's see where we're all at.

FYI- If you're living with someone and not married or unioned, I consider that a domestic partnership.

UPDATE: Mr. Barometer posted this map on interracial marriages and which states had laws against it. Notice those states that are slow on enlightenment. Not surprising. It will mirror gay marriage in a few years, and within 20 years, I think it will be legal in most states.

Relationship Status
Single but wanna get married someday
Single, no interest in marriage
Civil Unioned
Domestically Partnered
Dating
Heterosexually Married
Homosexually Married
Divorced/Widowed
  

Previous polls:
Foreskin
Sexual roles
Cities with the Hottest Guys

Posted by durban bud at May 1, 2007 01:43 AM

Comments

Where's the "none of the above" category?

I was domestic partnered in CA but moved to OR where it was not recognized. Then, we got married when Multnomah County allowed it (for 3 weeks or so) and the state anulled it months later. Now, we're just living in sin.

If they ever allow us to marry don't expect an invitation...I won't be having a wedding...I'm exhausted.

DB: I consider living with someone as a domestic partnership.

Posted by: Rodger at May 1, 2007 01:51 AM

Jim and I got married last month in Vancouver B.C. and had a very "low key" wedding -- just us, our marriage commissioner, and 2 witnesses in the courtyard of a nice hotel (one of the witnesses was the hotel switchboard operator -- I said low key!). Beautiiful city and environs, but the focus was definately *not* on flowers, tuxedos, clueless little kids balancing rings on a pillow or tossing out shredded flowers. We have been together over 10 years, so friends often now ask "does 'it' feel different?" My answer is: "No, it doesn't feel any different, but I feel differently *about him*." And I guess that's the reason we did it after all these years -- for each other -- not for other people or for "show" or any of that stuff.

Posted by: Andrew at May 1, 2007 03:51 AM

What about an option for "Partnered, no interest in marriage"?

Posted by: anger hangover at May 1, 2007 06:35 AM

How about single and open to marriage? Its hard to say you want to get married someday when you keep meeting guys you do not necessarily connect with......

Posted by: Chris at May 1, 2007 07:41 AM

My hubs and I got married in Massachusetts the day we were moving to Wisconsin, not as shotgun as it sounds. We didn't tell anyone for a year and it was a nice secret we could share. It was more about that moment, which was pretty effin' amazing!
Last November I watched out fair state vote to ban any union of this type AND reinstate the death penalty. How did I end up here?

Posted by: Steve at May 1, 2007 08:20 AM

With the exception of "homosexually married" and "civil unioned," I've been all of those things at one time or another. Being domestically partnered is where it's at.

Mostly I wish the government would get out of the marriage business and leave it to the churches. My church would be thrilled to perform marriages for gay couples if the State would allow it to. Given the facts on the ground, though, gays are right to push for full marriage rights.

Weddings, on the other hand, are for suckers. It'd make a lot more sense for a couple to save their money and throw a big party for a tenth anniversary, when they've got a demonstrated track record and people are less likely to want in on the how-long-until-they-split-up pool.

Posted by: Teddy at May 1, 2007 08:34 AM

How did I miss Bubble Butt Bonanza Day (which occurs on the last Friday of April) again this year?!?!

*Hangs head in shame*

http://www.durbanbud.com/blog/archives/2006/10/power_bottom_re_1.html

DB: That's my fault. I forgot to promote it. Maybe we can celebrate at the end of this month? I'll gladly accept bubble butt photos to post on that day.

Posted by: Jeff at May 1, 2007 08:46 AM

Durban, please pass along the info to me on all of the uncut power bottoms who are single and want to get married. Pretty please...

Posted by: homer at May 1, 2007 08:55 AM

My husband and I aren't "legally" married, but we made a commitment to each other and exchanged rings. For us, it wasn't about having the state recognize our union but rather knowing that we have someone with whom to share our life.

Posted by: Zack at May 1, 2007 09:18 AM

We should follow Western Europe’s model for marriage. All marriages sanctioned by the state are civil marriages; there is no religious connection. If you want a religious marriage, you file for a civil marriage and then go to a religious institution to have a ceremony. This removes the state from any religious role (effectively debunking the religious right's sanctity of marriage debate) and affords the legal rights to any couple who wishes to enter into a civil marriage.

I am partial to civil unions; in fact, I think it should be expanded to heterosexuals who do not want to be associated with “marriage” - which in my opinion is an antiquated tradition which was primarily born out of clan alliance, dowries and the belief that women are subservient to men.

Being in a long term same-sex relationship, the struggle for me is the legal protection these institutions afford. These include inheritance rights, hospital visitation rights, pensions, health insurance cost, adoption, deductions etc.

I would not deny the right to any couple to enter into a civil marriage and they SHOULD have that right but I prefer the term civil union.

On a related note, my home state NH will be enacting civil union next year. A little more than a year ago, a state committee concluded homosexuality was a choice and there was no reason to afford any state protection for same sex couples. Additionally there was a Republican lead effort to amend the state's constitution to ban same sex marriage. So what happened in a year? The Democrats swept the state legislature in the last election, winning control of both chambers as well as the governor’s seat. That is the difference between a government lead by Republicans vs. a government lead by Democrats.

Posted by: rob (the other half) at May 1, 2007 10:28 AM

What about if you're partnered with somebody but also have a boy mistress on the side? Does that go under heterosexually married?

Posted by: gwyneth cornrowg at May 1, 2007 11:02 AM

Dude,

You did not have a little checkbox for homosexually-partnered-before-but-now-divorced. "Single" just doesn't do it for me, as we were together for 18 years. "Single" just sort of wipes that all away in one tick.

But seriously. I'm a singer (a very good one, and massage therapist), and I don't do weddings anymore. When *I* can get married, I'll sing for those who can. I am no longer ambivalent about marriage.

Government is secular; we do not live in a theocracy (on paper, at least), so everyone should have access to the same rights, be able to make whatever domestic contracts they choose to make WITH inheritance, survivability, medical powers-of-attorney, etc. It isn't the government's business how I set up my family's structure.

Posted by: Raybob at May 1, 2007 11:44 AM

Dammit, I voted before reading the comments, and just checked "Dating" b/c we haven't done the domestic partnership thing (which we can do, being in CA). But we've been living together for 2.5 yrs, which by your estimation/definition makes us domestic partners. So if there's a way to change my vote...

I expect we'll "become" legally partnered (y'know) one of these days, and eventually marry after that (once it's legal, which it eventually will be).

Posted by: Thomas at May 1, 2007 12:24 PM

If she is Steadman, who is Gail?

I don't think I will ever refer to myself as married, even if I have a legal marriage, just because marriages are all weird and horrible and full of despairing people who just give up and stop living their lives and sit in front of the television night after night, eating TV dinners and just hating it and hating themselves and hating life but just lacking the energy or willpower to do anything about it.

Posted by: Aaron at May 1, 2007 04:29 PM

Actually, in California, interracial marriage was legal in 1948 after a court decision struck down their anti-interracial marriage law, so this map has some inaccuracies.

Incidentally, Illinois is supposed to have been the first state to eliminate it's sodomy laws. Where is the map of that?

Posted by: Justin at May 1, 2007 06:15 PM

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